If you are in from 2002 you are not looking at a cell phone co anymore. i have posted some of what I have read in the mssg brd. Helpful links etc. This board is not so deep, you can go through the mssg brd. Google what you want to know. i bought in on a hope and am being patient. Maybe next year we might see some stock motion. At the moment it seems to be under the radar. Since your share price has likely really suffered you might as well hang on. if they can get even one facility in operation we might smile.