may very well be the first 5 passenger, over 120mi BEV. Marketing in Ca. is a very smart move. They are hungry for a Zero emission vehicle, and they shouldn't have to worry about extreme cold there for the most part. Also, there are the Gold Credits, from ARB, that Phoenix was basing there price on; anyone familiar with how that will go down? It will all play out, but i'd be nice to have some answers now. RJS