I'm aware of this company's chequered history. But most of the people talking on the call today sounded as if they were very capable and were following a sound plan. By Q2 all of the products will be out to all of the reps. And assuming FDA clearance, DuraTech will probably reach the full launch stage at least by the end of 2010. Q4 will evidently stink, but at least that's out there already. By the time of the next call in February, full launch of MagniFuse will be only a couple of months away.