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FFO and sale of properties      5-Nov-09 09:29 am    
The earnings at first glance look poor. However, there are two positives -

#1 is a small thing that FFO is virtually the same. This suggests that expenses are being held in line and tennant improvements are not wiping out the cash flow. Remember it is not GAAP earnings, but rather FFO that matters for a REIT.

#2 is the following "HRP also sold seven properties during the third quarter of 2009 with 374,000 square feet of space for $144.6 million, excluding closing costs, and realized a gain on sale of properties of $50.1 million." This is a reminder that we all forget that HRP has owned many of its properties for a very long time. While prices are down in the last two years, they are hugely up relative to ten years ago. This suggest the real value of HRP is much greater than the book value.

Problem #1 is indeed the vacancy rate and rental rates on renewal for those same older properties. Would think we will get continued asset sales and 1031 exchanges to move the conmpany into newer buildings. As the economy improves, rents and demand will finally follow too.

Problem #2 - Does management get it? They still seem to look at what is good for them and not the shareholders. Maybe the disposition of some properties shows they are moving toward a position more aligned with us. Hope so!

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FFO and sale of properties
arbtrdr 5-Nov-09 09:29 am  
 
You suggested the real value of HRP is much greate...
abespec (1 Rating) 5-Nov-09 11:46 am  
 
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run35ok (1 Rating) 5-Nov-09 12:23 pm  
 
I'm no comml RE expert but I think their acqu...
tennvol_307... 5-Nov-09 01:12 pm  
 
I am an accountant and what you do not understand ...
richardleed... (1 Rating) 5-Nov-09 01:47 pm  
 
A gain on the sale of a property means equity...
abespec (2 Ratings) 5-Nov-09 02:44 pm  
 
The properties sold to SNH over the past...
rfritz10 (1 Rating) 5-Nov-09 03:21 pm  
 
I understand 100% that they are depreciating ...
arbtrdr (1 Rating) 5-Nov-09 04:37 pm  
 
Two- the managers historically have run ...
davidbdc200... 5-Nov-09 04:40 pm  
 
HRP's report actually met my expectations as well ...
bairdgs 5-Nov-09 05:10 pm  
 
I just listened to HRP's conference call. Here are...
bairdgs 5-Nov-09 05:13 pm  
 
Stifel analyst is a piece of work...John Guin...
TURBOFINANC... Rate it 5-Nov-09 06:55 pm  
 
sniffling sniffel has an axe to grind,wh...
rfritz10 Rate it 5-Nov-09 07:25 pm  
 
Appreciate the quick S&P update, Fr...
TURBOFINANC... (1 Rating) 5-Nov-09 10:40 pm  
 
I mistyped in my previous post...
TURBOFINANC... Rate it 5-Nov-09 10:55 pm  
 
I know what part of the call m...
rfritz10 Rate it 6-Nov-09 08:06 am  
 
>>HRP implied that all av...
TURBOFINANC... Rate it 6-Nov-09 08:42 am  
 
Seems to me that there is some confusion abou...
lafont Rate it 6-Nov-09 08:52 am  
 
There certainly is confusion on my part ...
bairdgs Rate it 6-Nov-09 11:05 am  
 
For one thing, usually depreciation...
lafont Rate it 6-Nov-09 02:50 pm  
 
lafont, this is not accounting...
TURBOFINANC... Rate it 6-Nov-09 02:55 pm  
 
Most of HRP'S excess income both th...
rfritz10 Rate it 6-Nov-09 03:07 pm  
 
Yes that's another biggie. ...
lafont Rate it 6-Nov-09 03:24 pm  
 
Oversold, short term players r...
larry888nyc (1 Rating) 6-Nov-09 03:26 pm  
 
Two observations- 1)What is guinee is righ...
tcorcoran40 Rate it 7-Nov-09 11:49 am  
 
tcorcoran, 1)Of the 7 analysts who ha...
bairdgs Rate it 7-Nov-09 12:40 pm  
 
Stephen- Here is a gift-but i do...
tcorcoran40 Rate it 7-Nov-09 01:46 pm  
 
Seems to me having gains is a ...
rfritz10 Rate it 7-Nov-09 02:45 pm  
 
Freek- There you go wi...
tcorcoran40 Rate it 7-Nov-09 09:00 pm  
 
tcorcoran, I have researched ...
bairdgs Rate it 7-Nov-09 05:00 pm  
 
Actually HRP has 409m in ...
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Stephen- Good luck to ...
tcorcoran40 Rate it 7-Nov-09 09:09 pm  
 
tcorcoran, Go look ...
bairdgs (1 Rating) 7-Nov-09 11:25 pm  
 
Stephen- You...
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Went back ...
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I thi...
davidbdc200... (1 Rating) 8-Nov-09 05:04 pm  
 
tco rc...
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Ste ph...
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