Things were better when Strouken was around. Now you idiots know why he ran off with the goodies when the running was good. FUL is not long for this world. It is getting squeezed on both ends - suppliers and customers. I wonder if the rank and file has figured out why they are forbidden (by Fuller) to contribute the Federal maximum allowable amount to their 401ks. I'll give you a hint. There is an upper limit to how much income can be tax deferred within a corporation. If the peasants were allowed to contribute the federal maximum then the other (essentially secret) deferal plans available to The Club Members (ie management) could not be available to them. There are a couple of other greedy games being played by "Management" that the peasants don't understand but ... not my problem ... Have a nice day!