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Re: $371 BV      5-Nov-09 12:52 am    
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What Does Combined Ratio Mean?
A measure of profitability used by an insurance company to indicate how well it is performing in its daily operations. A ratio below 100% indicates that the company is making underwriting profit while a ratio above 100% means that it is paying out more money in claims that it is receiving from premiums.

The combined ratio is comprised of the claims ratio and the expense ratio. The claims ratio is claims owed as a percentage of revenue earned from premiums. The expense ratio is operating costs as a percentage of revenue earned from premiums. The combined ratio is calculated by taking the sum of incurred losses and expenses and then dividing them by earned premium.

Even if the combined ratio is above of 100%, a company can potentially still make a profit (ex: FFH), because the ratio does not include the income received from investments.

Many insurance companies believe that this is the best way to measure the success of a company because it does not include investment income and therefore only includes profit that is earned through efficient management.

Again, my theory (which I hope is wrong!!! In this case, someone knowledgeable - who has read all the investment and insurance books from Barnes & Noble -- Please explain.. I am all ears!!) is that insurance part is not very profitable yet and hopefully, this is one of the goal for FFH. FFH management staff are MASTERS when it comes to portfolio Risk management and they also have the patience to wait after hedging their bet. These are good traits and hence I have invested almost 80% of my savings here.


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Is my prediction
rocketmadem... Rate it 29-Oct-09 05:32 pm  
 
$371.85 is my prediction!
steveschmid... Rate it 29-Oct-09 05:37 pm  
 
pretty good prediction i can honestly say ...
rocketmadem... Rate it 29-Oct-09 05:51 pm  
 
anddon't forget EPS $30.88 for the quart...
bee_plus_00... Rate it 29-Oct-09 05:54 pm  
 
30.88 is outrageously outrageous. H...
rocketmadem... Rate it 29-Oct-09 05:56 pm  
 
Really can't understand why th...
nli200808 Rate it 4-Nov-09 03:27 pm  
 
I tried to make an outrag...
bee_plus_00... Rate it 4-Nov-09 05:18 pm  
 
Here is an example o...
bee_plus_00... Rate it 4-Nov-09 06:01 pm  
 
Explain to me w...
rgarga_2000 Rate it 4-Nov-09 08:17 pm  
 
Re: $371 BV
bee_plus_00... Not rated 5-Nov-09 12:52 am  
 
ORH 10-Q...BV 59.72
rtrowghyrou... Rate it 6-Nov-09 09:03 pm  
 
Ummm! So, FFH bough...
bee_plus_00... Rate it 6-Nov-09 09:32 pm  
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