FWIW..im just a 21 year old playin this thing like a fiddle and i would think all of you would be too..limit at 12.50 stop loss once its up over 15...watch it fall to 12.50 again and do the same thing. no upward momentum at all the past 6 months...sometimes you just have to believe its being manipulated and play the game. not bad for a college kid..up 5k in the last 4 months on dsx. not a chance in hell i thought my limit order at 12.50 was gonna get hit but look what happened and now today its already a nice gain. believe me..i with the divy was still around, when it comes back ill be in for the long term but for now its short term buy and sells until the bdi comes around and people start believing again.