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After all this is the CPTC board!
More specifically, let's discuss accc sales (or lack thereof) in the US utility industry over the past 3 or 4 years. Yesterday Craps cited as examples of thriving accc sales in the US 3 installations from CPTC press releases over 3 years ago. The first installation he cited was a PR dated 2/23/06 for WAPA's Phoenix line of @ 6,000 feet. http://media.marketwire.com/attachments/... The second and third citations were for AEP's lines in TX and AR. http://media.marketwire.com/attachments/... http://media.marketwire.com/attachments/... Now pay special attention to Craps's special twist and interpretation of these installations when he says...... "or some of the larger lines that have been in place for over 3 years?" And also re-read the CPTC PR's to see if you get any hint from them that they might just have been "temporary" type installs. Nope, CPTC's PR would make you believe that these are orders for the long term replacement of Steel conductors. But as I have said before, it's not what CPTC says in their PR's that's important, it's what they don't say! So let's see what the real purpose of these accc order was. Let's go to AEP's own PR of Jan,2008 describing their take on why they used accc on the Chamber Springs to Tontitown,AR line, so that......... .......... WE CAN GET THE REST OF THE STORY !! ................ NORTHWEST ARKASAS 345 KV AND 161 KV UPGRADES Project Description: "AEP installed state-of-the art Aluminum Composite Conductor Core (ACCC) on a 12 mile section of Southwester Electric Power Company's transmission system in northwest Arkansas as an INTERIM (my emphasis) step to ensure system reliability pending a broader plan to build new extra-high voltage transmission in the area... This reconductoring maintained for reliability for this region over the summer of 2007 UNTIL ( my emphasis) SWEPCO could place a new approximately 345 kv line in service ... in June 2008." So this accc install was never meant to be a permanent installation according to AEP but a TEMPORARY INSTALL. And the temporary install was only for 12 months or so! So when AEP decided to make the permanent install, what type of conductor do you think they chose? Let's go back to AEP's Press release...................... "The new 345 kV line is being built with bundled 795 ALUMINUM CONDUCTOR STEEL REINFORCED (ACSR) conductor while the new 161 kV line uses 1590 ACSR. SO, AEP chooses ACSR for their permanent installs. Now folks, did you get that from CPTC's PR? Nope, what you got from their PR was that this was a repeat order suggesting a permanent installation of accc replacing acsr. And Craps, this line was NOT IN PLACE FOR OVER 3 YEARS! Try maybe 13 months or so. And now you know "the rest of the story". Link to AEP PR, page 17................ http://www.eei.org/ourissues/Electricity... Rating :
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Let's discuss CTC's accc, shall we?
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pimurray | (2 Ratings) | 4-Nov-09 10:55 am | ||
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So 12 miles of ACCC is insignificant? You are ful...
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iponu_freel... | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 11:03 am | ||
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I was also wondering about the latest PR from...
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pimurray | (2 Ratings) | 4-Nov-09 11:24 am | ||
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If you can read your own posted links, y...
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iponu_freel... | (2 Ratings) | 4-Nov-09 11:48 am | ||
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don't let him confuse you or get yo...
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bleucheese1 |
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4-Nov-09 12:54 pm | ||
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bleu - PERFECT DESCRIPTION
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CrapsGuy | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 03:43 pm | ||
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Now Fromage, it's your turn to...
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pimurray | (1 Rating) | 6-Nov-09 06:45 pm | ||
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And Craps, the Phoenix "order" that you ...
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pimurray | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 11:55 am | ||
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So, being the curious kind of guy I...
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pimurray | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 12:52 pm | ||
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PImurray - It appears that SCE...
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monkeybiz80 | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 01:32 pm | ||
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Look at page 3 of this Fe...
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pimurray | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 02:16 pm | ||
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Murry - if you were competent enoug...
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CrapsGuy | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 03:39 pm | ||
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Craps, you're wasting your car...
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iponu_freel... | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 03:44 pm | ||
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ip - I know it - I look a...
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CrapsGuy | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 03:50 pm | ||
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EwePee, the problem is that people talk about...
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teedoompick... | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 01:05 pm | ||
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Upee, after you finish with Mexico, coul...
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pimurray | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 01:20 pm | ||
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OK, iponu, here's you're chance to show the b...
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pimurray | (2 Ratings) | 7-Nov-09 09:21 pm | ||
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They are all morphaganics.
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iponu_freel... |
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8-Nov-09 06:45 am | ||
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Nice find, PI, but what's another lie on top of al...
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teedoompick... | (2 Ratings) | 4-Nov-09 12:50 pm | ||
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T,
It's good to be back discussing CTC, is...
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pimurray | (2 Ratings) | 4-Nov-09 12:56 pm | ||
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murry - I skimmed over it [and btw mercu...
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CrapsGuy | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 04:23 pm | ||
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So Craps,
You skimmed over it, a...
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pimurray | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 05:04 pm | ||
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Craps, the folks who have not "put ...
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teedoompick... | (2 Ratings) | 4-Nov-09 05:58 pm | ||
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doom - ya - we will see.
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CrapsGuy | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 06:07 pm | ||
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Murry - the Chamber Springs to Tontitown line is s...
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CrapsGuy | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 03:33 pm | ||
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Now Craps,
Go back and read your own link...
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pimurray | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 04:45 pm | ||
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I figured it out. Your problem is not r...
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iponu_freel... | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 05:09 pm | ||
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OK, Upeee,
Cuz I'm such a nice g...
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pimurray | (2 Ratings) | 4-Nov-09 05:27 pm | ||
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Do you know there are two,(TWO...
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iponu_freel... | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 05:32 pm | ||
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they are INTERIM installs...
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pimurray | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 05:37 pm | ||
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Your'e good, very go...
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iponu_freel... | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 05:41 pm | ||
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UPEEE, I knew t...
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pimurray | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 05:46 pm | ||
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murry boy!...
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CrapsGuy | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 05:56 pm | ||
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anyone see...
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CrapsGuy |
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4-Nov-09 06:11 pm | ||
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"Both have been approved ...
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teedoompick... | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 06:02 pm | ||
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I didn't know that T...
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CrapsGuy | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 06:05 pm | ||
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That's who I wa...
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teedoompick... | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 06:53 pm | ||
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Who's Gary? I'm not...
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iponu_freel... | (1 Rating) | 4-Nov-09 07:16 pm | ||
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EwePee, what ar...
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teedoompick... | (1 Rating) | 5-Nov-09 12:39 am | ||
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[don't miss the last paragraph]
Q. PLEASE DESCRIB...
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CrapsGuy | (2 Ratings) | 4-Nov-09 04:09 pm | ||
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Hi Craps,
I`ve been away for some time and I...
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harrior2 |
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4-Nov-09 04:31 pm | ||
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What, lies like these?
By: harrior1 ...
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teedoompick... | (2 Ratings) | 4-Nov-09 06:00 pm | ||
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harrior - they are not paid - they are n...
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CrapsGuy | (2 Ratings) | 4-Nov-09 06:03 pm |
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