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Watch out for Pension Benefits     19-Nov-08 04:49 pm    
An steel analyst recently raised the issue of pension expense with US Steel (X) noting that the steep decline in the world's stock markets is likely to increase pension expense for X as accrued benefits are trouncing pension fund returns. The pension problem is the root of the problem for US autoworkers who are guaranteed pension benefits. These legacy costs are killing the competitiveness of the US auto industry.

X and other old steel companies who have defined benefit programs will likely to run into the same problems as the the auto industry. These programs are historically under funded even under optimistic return scenarios. The steep drop in stocks is highly likely to produce more pension problems.

In the 1Q release, CRS noted:

"Based primarily on the decline in the market value of the securities in the Company's defined benefit pension plans' as of June 30, 2008, the Company will experience a pre-tax net pension expense during fiscal 2009 of $20.1 million. This is a non-cash expense that will be amortized equally during the fiscal year. The pension expense equates to a year-to-year difference in reported earnings of $0.28 per share, with a first quarter pre-tax impact of $5.1 million or $0.06 per share. The defined benefit plans were fully funded as of June 30, 2008."

This expense is as of June 30, 2008 and we all know how the market has done since then. While it's a non-cash expense, it will become an increasingly bigger problem if stock markets don't recover.
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Watch out for Pension Benefits
solo_nyc (1 Rating) 19-Nov-08 04:49 pm  
 
Unless the market drops precipitously through 2009...
spentpencil (1 Rating) 19-Nov-08 10:13 pm  
 
"Unless the market drops precipitously throug...
solo_nyc Rate it 20-Nov-08 08:36 am  
 
CRS showed a pension benefit obligation ...
solo_nyc Rate it 20-Nov-08 10:16 am  
 
I believe they have not contributed...
robtpenn (1 Rating) 20-Nov-08 12:45 pm  
 
I'm interested in this also. Please...
robtpenn Rate it 20-Nov-08 07:20 pm  
 
I'm not sure if this link will...
solo_nyc (1 Rating) 20-Nov-08 09:02 pm  
 
ATI just announced a volu...
solo_nyc (1 Rating) 9-Jul-09 10:08 am  
 
I shall admit that from the practical side, I hone...
blind.bat_0... Rate it 20-Nov-08 12:56 am  
 
Back when companies cared for their employees...
solo_nyc (1 Rating) 20-Nov-08 10:56 am  
 
That I knew and understood. The element ...
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Sorry, I'll clarify a little. Th...
solo_nyc (1 Rating) 20-Nov-08 01:07 pm  
 
Ah....now that makes much more...
blind.bat_0... Rate it 20-Nov-08 01:50 pm  
 
Defined benefit plans can...
solo_nyc Rate it 20-Nov-08 02:19 pm  
 
Some companys get out of the pension business all ...
potpiealley... (1 Rating) 11-Jul-09 03:36 pm  
 
U dummy the auto worker are guilty of one thing an...
blg4@sbcglo... Rate it 22-Oct-09 04:33 pm  
 
These pensions should have never benn allowed to b...
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