I would imagine that with all of the unmet expectations that Joel has serenaded investors with over the past 2 years regarding the non-defense commercial applications for CRDN and it's ceramics capability, that this company is now becoming a VALUE play especially with $200 million of cash sitting on the balance sheet.

Joel better stop "cheerleading" the aluminum smelter story that he has been touting for the past 3 years and actually show some REAL WORLD numbers that come from a customer who has actually installed one of Ceradyne's smelting filters.

It's time to stop with all of the talk.