You're absolutely correct - years of mismanagement. They got lucky with their relationship to sell the Cu plating chemistry, customers adopted Cu, and revenues grew. But now that the semi market is mature, you can see that they have stalled, for many years, and have had no significant revenue from internal R&D projects. Neugold has been touting autoclean and regen-si for more than three years now - show us the revenue! The last 12 months, while horrible for semi manufacturers, were a perfect time for them to test and qualify new materials. So, atmi management, where are the results? Give us some numbers. Oh yeah, and what about all of your great strategic relationships we've heard about in the past - like Anji for CMP. What happened with that? Another partnership with AMTI that went south? Amateurs.