LMVTX = Bill Miller's Value Trust. Using Yahoo Finance, pull up the "Performance" topic on each one in turn. Look at the score representing the average annualized gains for last 5 years. LMEMX = +26%, LMVTX = +9%. And not that LMVTX did poorly relative to its competition in this same category, because its category for the last 5 years is even lower at +6%. This is a very tangible, very dramatic illustration of my assertion that what we're seeing now and for the past 5 years is in effect the "end of the American Century."