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Here's the scoop. AMD has been using Fake-o-watts called "ACP" to quote power recently, comparing it to Intel's maximum power ratings (TDP). Why? Because AMD is underhanded, of course.
But within their own power documents, two versions of the same document reveal the K10 power usage is out of control. TDPs are soaring, and that's why AMD doesn't want to talk about them. TDPs are what matter when designing thermal solutions for systems, of course. In the OLD document, version A, AMD has 3 TDP families for the K10: http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_... 68W, 95W and 120W. These are what folks have expected. In the NEW document, version B, AMD has had to increase these drastically: http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_... 79W, 115W (!!) and 137W(!!) They quote the same invented Fake-o-watts ACP values of: 55W, 75W, and 105W for both. Amusingly, the "tech doc guy" made an error in "B" and forgot to update the "max power" comments to reflect the newly increased TDP values! Guess he really needed that vacation. This explains why AMD is going to require a horrible 140W TDP for the 2.6GHz Phenoms, and suggests continuing severe 65nm process problems for AMD. Their parts are literally burning up as they approach 2.6GHz. They're done for. Rating :
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AMD's K10 design is mediocre, and 45nm is a very challe...
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holy vessel, if I understand you correctly, once Intel ...
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6-Dec-07 08:07 pm | |||
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How far behind are you?
Intel ramped Fab 32 in Octob...
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6-Dec-07 08:06 pm | |||
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AMD problem is much more serious.
use your mind, what...
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6-Dec-07 08:03 pm | |||
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Pluscard does have a way to get under your skin with hi...
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6-Dec-07 07:55 pm | |||
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"There is clearly a concerted effort to bash AMD into t...
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6-Dec-07 07:26 pm | |||
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By screwing up on the Barcelona and then Phenom launche...
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6-Dec-07 07:09 pm | |||
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universe?
AMD's K10 has turned out to be a disaster,...
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6-Dec-07 06:52 pm | |||
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All you said is just a copy from AMD.
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6-Dec-07 06:47 pm | |||
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Purely for Amusement.
The NY times article this mornin...
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6-Dec-07 06:21 pm | |||
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AMD and Intel now use a nearly IDENTICAL definition for...
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6-Dec-07 06:20 pm | |||
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yourbestfriend,
nope if ATI continues to falter I be...
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6-Dec-07 06:04 pm | |||
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I think you found the primary bidder for ATI assets in ...
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6-Dec-07 05:18 pm | |||
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INTEL new 52 week high, AMD 4 year low.
This company...
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6-Dec-07 05:12 pm | |||
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Sound more and more like some of those ATI xbox360* qua...
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6-Dec-07 05:07 pm | |||
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well, if you need AMD's documents to tell you that thei...
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6-Dec-07 04:40 pm | |||
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Yea its old new for anyone that has been reading my pos...
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6-Dec-07 04:35 pm | |||
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Sweet. Well, AMD's ACP BS should be exposed for the dec...
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6-Dec-07 04:28 pm | |||
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Its a good thing AMD took that watt meter down from tim...
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