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BREAKING: K10 has a power/heat problem!!      4-Dec-07 02:55 pm    
Here's the scoop. AMD has been using Fake-o-watts called "ACP" to quote power recently, comparing it to Intel's maximum power ratings (TDP). Why? Because AMD is underhanded, of course.

But within their own power documents, two versions of the same document reveal the K10 power usage is out of control.

TDPs are soaring, and that's why AMD doesn't want to talk about them. TDPs are what matter when designing thermal solutions for systems, of course.

In the OLD document, version A, AMD has 3 TDP families for the K10:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_...
68W, 95W and 120W. These are what folks have expected.

In the NEW document, version B, AMD has had to increase these drastically:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_...
79W, 115W (!!) and 137W(!!)

They quote the same invented Fake-o-watts ACP values of:
55W, 75W, and 105W for both.

Amusingly, the "tech doc guy" made an error in "B" and forgot to update the "max power" comments to reflect the newly increased TDP values! Guess he really needed that vacation.

This explains why AMD is going to require a horrible 140W TDP for the 2.6GHz Phenoms, and suggests continuing severe 65nm process problems for AMD. Their parts are literally burning up as they approach 2.6GHz.

They're done for.


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BREAKING: K10 has a power/heat problem!!
longnetflix 4-Dec-07 02:55 pm  
 
AMD has long since lost the ability to be honest w...
Merlot_1 4-Dec-07 03:27 pm  
 
This thread just made the Inquirer: ...
yourbestfri... 6-Dec-07 04:04 pm  
 
Hell that site should come here more often fo...
amd_screwed 6-Dec-07 04:10 pm  
 
Sweet. Well, AMD's ACP BS should be exposed f...
longnetflix 6-Dec-07 04:28 pm  
 
Its a good thing AMD took that watt meter down fro...
V1ad_The_Im... 6-Dec-07 04:13 pm  
 
Yea its old new for anyone that has been read...
hei4me 6-Dec-07 04:35 pm  
 
well, if you need AMD's documents to tell you that...
carbonmonox... 6-Dec-07 04:40 pm  
 
Sound more and more like some of those ATI xbox360...
queer_lies_... 6-Dec-07 05:07 pm  
 
I think you found the primary bidder for ATI ...
yourbestfri... 6-Dec-07 05:18 pm  
 
INTEL new 52 week high, AMD 4 year low. This co...
ostk.ptrnr 6-Dec-07 05:12 pm  
 
yourbestfriend, nope if ATI continues to f...
hei4me 6-Dec-07 06:04 pm  
 
Purely for Amusement. The NY times article t...
amdgofigure 6-Dec-07 06:21 pm  
 
AMD and Intel now use a nearly IDENTICAL defi...
longnetflix 6-Dec-07 06:20 pm  
 
All you said is just a copy from AMD.
rgao88 6-Dec-07 06:47 pm  
 
universe? AMD's K10 has turned out to be a...
longnetflix 6-Dec-07 06:52 pm  
 
By screwing up on the Barcelona and then Phen...
luvpizzasj 6-Dec-07 07:09 pm  
 
"There is clearly a concerted effort to bash ...
desrtdune 6-Dec-07 07:26 pm  
 
Pluscard does have a way to get under yo...
hei4me 6-Dec-07 07:55 pm  
 
AMD problem is much more serious. use your mind,...
holyvessel 6-Dec-07 08:03 pm  
 
How far behind are you? Intel ramped Fab 3...
yourbestfri... 6-Dec-07 08:06 pm  
 
holy vessel, if I understand you correctly, o...
p_l_u_s_c_a... 6-Dec-07 08:07 pm  
 
AMD's K10 design is mediocre, and 45nm i...
longnetflix 6-Dec-07 08:27 pm  
 
Yeah, that's pretty much close to the truth, I gue...
yawakama 7-Dec-07 03:13 am  
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