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Re: Baltic Freight index down again last night     17-Sep-09 03:18 pm    
I am answering my own question. From wikipedia: "The index provides "an assessment of the price of moving the major raw materials by sea. Taking in 26 shipping routes measured on a timecharter and voyage basis, the index covers Handymax, Panamax, and Capesize dry bulk carriers carrying a range of commodities including coal, iron ore and grain."[1]"

Given the definition above and the well known fact that the Koreans are still cranking out ships, I'm not sure that shipping prices will increase for a long time after the actual economy has turned around. Think about it, there is an increasing supply of ships due to the fact that the Korean shipping industry is currently building ships w/o regard for actual demand. Actual shipping could be increasing a large rate w/o effecting shipping prices.

My conclusion: BDI is currently a lagging lagging lagging indicator.

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always the precusor of commodity moves one way or the o...
amerrepubli... (2 Ratings) 17-Sep-09 02:41 pm  
 
Amer.......this is the drill. Get market up as hig...
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you are right...besides the BDI looking very ...
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Dumb question: What is the Baltic Dry I...
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Sorry... I should have read the res...
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I've got a question: what does the BDI actual meas...
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Re: Baltic Freight index down again last night
bandg122 Not rated 17-Sep-09 03:18 pm  
 
the BDI is they ONLY real time indicator...
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i agree that it WAS a leading indic...
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but you had that when the inde...
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i'm not saying that it is...
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1. "it would be accu...
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agreed nobody b...
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no opinions on this????
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this supports my point: ...
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even though they are building ...
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this too: ...
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the last paragraph or so ...
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One more factoid from: ...
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very interesting piece...all i say ...
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railroad factiod: ...
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as far as i understand stand its for dry bulk...
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